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element type setting

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Hi all,
I simulate a 3-D thin-slab (100cm x 100cm x 8cm) and analyse its deformation with solid mechanic and temperature. I used my ".mphtxt" file to import the mesh, which contains 80,000 (100x100x8) elements in total. However, there are about 2,700,000 DOF (degrees of freedom) in total for calculating, which is not able to be computed with only 32 GB RAM work-station.

My question is:
Is it possible to change the element type from second-order to first-order in order to reduce the DOF numbers for calculating ?

Thanks
CHI

1 Reply Last Post 19 févr. 2016, 10:13 UTC−5
Jeff Hiller COMSOL Employee

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Posted: 8 years ago 19 févr. 2016, 10:13 UTC−5
For parts of a geometry with a high aspect ratio, which is the case here, you should look into using a swept mesh made of thin elements (Unless the physics preclude it, of course) . Such meshes can be created within COMSOL without the need to import a file. See this blog for an introduction on the topic: www.comsol.com/blogs/improving-your-meshing-with-swept-meshes/ .
See also the chapter on meshing in the Reference Manual for more in-depth information on meshing techniques. All manuals are accessed through the File > Help >Documentation menu.
Best regards,
Jeff

PS: Yes, it is also possible to switch from second-order elements to first-order elements (That's done on the Discretization tab of the Settings page for the physics in question, available after you're activated it via the View button). But that is not the first thing we would recommend in this situation. For more on this topic, please read the following: www.comsol.com/blogs/keeping-track-of-element-order-in-multiphysics-models/

PS2: In some cases, there are "smarter" ways of modeling thin structures than in full 3D. For instance, in structural mechanics one can represent a thin structure as a shell or a plate or a membrane. Similar approaches are available in COMSOL for other physics as well, see for instance formulations for DC currents on surfaces, thin layer assumptions for heat transfer, thin film approximation for fluid flow, etc. These modeling techniques, when appropriate, save enormous amounts of memory and computational time.
For parts of a geometry with a high aspect ratio, which is the case here, you should look into using a swept mesh made of thin elements (Unless the physics preclude it, of course) . Such meshes can be created within COMSOL without the need to import a file. See this blog for an introduction on the topic: http://www.comsol.com/blogs/improving-your-meshing-with-swept-meshes/ . See also the chapter on meshing in the Reference Manual for more in-depth information on meshing techniques. All manuals are accessed through the File > Help >Documentation menu. Best regards, Jeff PS: Yes, it is also possible to switch from second-order elements to first-order elements (That's done on the Discretization tab of the Settings page for the physics in question, available after you're activated it via the View button). But that is not the first thing we would recommend in this situation. For more on this topic, please read the following: http://www.comsol.com/blogs/keeping-track-of-element-order-in-multiphysics-models/ PS2: In some cases, there are "smarter" ways of modeling thin structures than in full 3D. For instance, in structural mechanics one can represent a thin structure as a shell or a plate or a membrane. Similar approaches are available in COMSOL for other physics as well, see for instance formulations for DC currents on surfaces, thin layer assumptions for heat transfer, thin film approximation for fluid flow, etc. These modeling techniques, when appropriate, save enormous amounts of memory and computational time.

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