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What about Maxwell's equation ?
Posted 16 juin 2010, 13:23 UTC−4 3 Replies
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Hi everybody,
In order to solve my problem (see : www.comsol.fr/community/forums/general/thread/6526/), i have tried a new approach. COMSOL seems to need some potential as reference to find solutions in electrostatics. As i'm interested in electric fields and not potential, i have implemented the maxwell equation (Div E = rho /eps_0) in my system using
PDE in coefficient. (parameters c=a=e=d=alpha=gamma=0 ; beta=1 ; f=0 or XXX). My charge pattern could be a source or have a "source" boundary. But when i tried to plot the resulted electric field E, COMSOL can't find a solution...
Is the way i solve/implement it right ? Do you have any suggestion ?
Warm thanks for your help.
Etienne
In order to solve my problem (see : www.comsol.fr/community/forums/general/thread/6526/), i have tried a new approach. COMSOL seems to need some potential as reference to find solutions in electrostatics. As i'm interested in electric fields and not potential, i have implemented the maxwell equation (Div E = rho /eps_0) in my system using
PDE in coefficient. (parameters c=a=e=d=alpha=gamma=0 ; beta=1 ; f=0 or XXX). My charge pattern could be a source or have a "source" boundary. But when i tried to plot the resulted electric field E, COMSOL can't find a solution...
Is the way i solve/implement it right ? Do you have any suggestion ?
Warm thanks for your help.
Etienne
3 Replies Last Post 18 juin 2010, 03:50 UTC−4
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Posted:
1 decade ago
Hi
are you sure that you have an unique soliution in your case ?
Comsol converges only if you have a true BVP (boundary value problem) with an unique solution, else what to choose ?
COMSOL does not solve ALL ODE/PDEs just the class that has some physical sense, and we all still have our feet on ground (I hope so), we are not flaoting around via an arbitrary constant, no ?
Have fun Comsoling
Ivar
are you sure that you have an unique soliution in your case ?
Comsol converges only if you have a true BVP (boundary value problem) with an unique solution, else what to choose ?
COMSOL does not solve ALL ODE/PDEs just the class that has some physical sense, and we all still have our feet on ground (I hope so), we are not flaoting around via an arbitrary constant, no ?
Have fun Comsoling
Ivar
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Posted:
1 decade ago
Hi Etienne,
as the electrical field is the gradient of the potential you can always add an arbitrary constant to your potential settings without changing the fields. However, as Ivar points out, you need to define the boundary conditions, otherwise the model gets meaningless.
I am doing a lot of magnetostatics and sometimes it gets a little dificult to set the boundary conditions at the outer boundary of the model to simulate the situation at infinty without making the model very big.
One workaround I found is the following: Sometimes my magnetic fields can be approximated by magnetic dipoles at larger distance. So I use the corresponding dipole field as boundary condition at the outer boundary. This allows to make the empty space to model much smaller.
So if you can approximate your charge distribution (maybe by a point charge) at larger distance, you could use the field (or potential) of the point charge at the outer boundary.
Cheers
Edgar
as the electrical field is the gradient of the potential you can always add an arbitrary constant to your potential settings without changing the fields. However, as Ivar points out, you need to define the boundary conditions, otherwise the model gets meaningless.
I am doing a lot of magnetostatics and sometimes it gets a little dificult to set the boundary conditions at the outer boundary of the model to simulate the situation at infinty without making the model very big.
One workaround I found is the following: Sometimes my magnetic fields can be approximated by magnetic dipoles at larger distance. So I use the corresponding dipole field as boundary condition at the outer boundary. This allows to make the empty space to model much smaller.
So if you can approximate your charge distribution (maybe by a point charge) at larger distance, you could use the field (or potential) of the point charge at the outer boundary.
Cheers
Edgar
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Posted:
1 decade ago
Thank you Edgar and Ivar for your expertise.
I will try this charge "approximation".
Etienne
I will try this charge "approximation".
Etienne