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Comsol-"white space"

Posted 22 mars 2021, 09:42 UTC−4 General, Geometry, Introduction 2 Replies

Alkistis Fotopoulou
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Hi all,

I was wondering what does the white space in Comsol represent. I assume it does not represent air and hence, I will have to build a geometry and define it. Am I wrong?

To make it more specific, I have attached my model in which I excite two transducers with AC voltage in the intersection with a water channel. My question is what does the white space in between represent.

Thank you.

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2 Replies Last Post 5 avr. 2021, 12:43 UTC−4
Robert Koslover Certified Consultant
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Posted: 4 years ago 22 mars 2021, 15:10 UTC−4
Updated: 4 years ago 22 mars 2021, 15:13 UTC−4

If by "white space" you are referring to regions that are outside the computational volume, then "outside the computational volume" is exactly what those spaces are. The finite element computations take place inside the computational volume. Post-processing may or may not make predictions outside the computational volume, depending on the application. (For example, the compution of a radiated pattern from an antenna can be thought of as making a prediction outside the computational volume.) The various boundaries and boundary conditions impose... well, conditions upon the boundaries. If the physics in your problem requires the modeling of a spatial region that you choose to not include, then you will generally not get the right answer. In short, you need to specify an appropriate computational volume, and appropriate boundary conditions, such that what might "happen" in any region outside the computational volume is, in essence, irrelevant to the answer. Conversely, if such a region matters, then you had better include it in your computational space or (if you can) manage it by means of appropriate boundary conditions that ensure that the appropriate physics will be modeled correctly in the region you actually care about.

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If by "white space" you are referring to regions that are *outside* the computational volume, then "outside the computational volume" is exactly what those spaces are. The finite element computations take place *inside* the computational volume. Post-processing may or may not make predictions outside the computational volume, depending on the application. (For example, the compution of a radiated pattern from an antenna can be thought of as making a prediction outside the computational volume.) The various boundaries and boundary conditions impose... well, *conditions* upon the *boundaries*. If the physics in your problem *requires* the modeling of a spatial region that you choose to *not* include, then you will generally not get the right answer. In short, you need to specify an appropriate computational volume, and appropriate boundary conditions, such that what might "happen" in any region *outside* the computational volume is, in essence, *irrelevant* to the answer. Conversely, if such a region *matters*, then you had better *include* it in your computational space or (if you can) manage it by means of appropriate boundary conditions that ensure that the appropriate physics will be modeled correctly in the region you actually care about.
Alkistis Fotopoulou
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Posted: 4 years ago 5 avr. 2021, 12:43 UTC−4

Hi Robert,

Thank you for your reply!

Makes sense!

Hi Robert, Thank you for your reply! Makes sense!

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